. >> in california, that is not true necessarily. they do have something called a decent exposure. but there is what we call elements of a crime. and any time the prosecutor wants to find you guilty of the crime, have the jury find you guilty, they have to find three things. the third element says you have to be naked and exposing your genitals for the purpose of either sexually arousing yourself or somebody else. so martin, if you are just walking down the street saying i like to be free in the breeze, guess what? that is not necessarily indecent exposure. so you can be naked all you want, as long as it is not for that horrible purpose of just wanting to be free. >> well, does it limit my free speech of going without clothing? >> well, i don't think so, there is speech and then just letting it all hang out. so there is speech, and there is i have a right to express myself by being completely naked. and the city council is saying no, oddly enough, the reason he proposes the legislation, when naked people sit on public benches they don't put a towel or newspaper under them. no, i'm